Monday, September 16, 2019
Short Stories? Patterns? Literary Term Application?
What are your thinking regarding the socratic class discussion that you experienced with your peers addressing several of the short stories we have read: Through The Tunnel, The Plainswoman, The Scarlet Ibis? Are there any thematic or character patterns you noticed? Other elements of fiction or literary terms that seemed evident such as plot, tone, mood, point of view, setting, etc... Please respond to this blog post by 3:40p.m. on Wed., Sep. 18th.
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The moods and plots of these stories seem very similar, they all seem gloomy or not going the way expected. The characters all have had something scary or bad happen to them. Like in "Through The Tunnel" and "The Plainswoman" both characters have a sense of anger within them. THe plainswoman didn't like the plains and was mad at her husband and the kid that was trying to swim through the tunnel was mad at himself because he couldn't achieve his goal at first.
After reading all of the stories in class I realized that all of the stories are very similar. In different ways each of the stories have a bad/ upsetting mood. In "The Scarlet Ibis" a boy named Doodle with a medical condition was ran to death by his cruel brother. In "Through The Tunnel" the boy was upset because he couldn't achieve what he wanted to do. And in "Plainswoman" Nora was upset because she was having troubles with her husband and no longer liked the plains. As you can see all of these characters face a lot of upsetting challenges that sets a bad mood for the storie.
The short stories that we have been reading in class recently, seem incredibly similar. One way to relate them would be the character patterns shown within the stories. For example, the main character, or the narrator usually has high expectations that cannot be met, which makes them sad or disappointed. Another example of the relation between the short stories would be that they all have a sad, or groggy mood. In the story,"The Scarlett Ibis" the narrator accidentally killed his brother at the end of the story, leaving him full of regret. Also, in "Through the Tunnel" the narrator, Jerry, almost accidentally drowned himself. Lastly, in "The Lady or the Tiger" the princess purposly kills her lover out of jealousy. As shown, the short stories we have read in class have a mood of sadness. They all have a character that places high expectations, and usually ends in a almost or sudden death.
After finishing the short stories we have read in class, there are thematic and character patterns I have noticed. Each of these stories has a unique and special way of expressing melancholy and distressed plots. In these stories, the main characters are unique and special, and they have all been put into uncomfortable situations. These characters are faced with physical and emotional stress. The setting in each story also plays a big role because without the ocean or without the forest, there is no conflict, so each is put into a position where they are faced with challenges brought unto them by their surroundings. All these stories conclude with death or almost death, revealing how we should all push ourselves to be better, but not like others.
Most of these stories seem like they use fear to drive their actions and decisions. Also, in all three stories, there is a character that is always the odd one out. That says that human nature pushes us to fit in. When people try to be themselves they are rejected and try to change to fit in. Most of these characters were all put into a position where they are forced to be themselves. In "Plainswoman", "Through the Tunnel", and "The Scarlet Ibis", the consequence of their decision is death. They all choose to challenge the conflict head-on and end up conquering their fear.
-JuliaD
The many discussions amongst the class about the several short stories are all connected, each story shows how the character grows as a person in one way or another.The princess in the "The Lady or the Tiger" made her choice of sending her lover to his death, the narrator in "The River, the Bass, Sheila Mont" learning not to change himself, the boy in "Through the Tunnel" attempting to make it through the tunnel and making adult actions to fit in with the other boys. Most of the stories seem to have a common mood of regret, sadness, obsessiveness, mostly reflecting on human nature. Each theme relates very closely to growing up or making the best choice out of perhaps not so good choices. Each character faces a certain problem, and each one overcomes there problem; whether, it leaves them regretting their actions and decisions.
During the seminar, many things were discussed such as the similarities in their themes. In Scarlet Ibis, the bird is out of place just like Doodle and in Plainswoman, the main character is also out of place when she moves from New England. Just how these two stories showed characters feeling out of place, the protagonist in Through the Tunnel feels like he must work hard to fit in with the other boys. In the beginning, the characters all felt he needed to fit in, but by the end they were all forced to be themselves. Another thing that was discussed was setting. The consequences of what they were feeling/what was happening was all a result of their setting. In Through The Tunnel, the boy wouldn’t have pushed himself if he hadn’t been on vacation, in Plainswoman, the entire story revolves around her having to move and starting a new life, and in Scarlet Ibis, the Ibis dies because he got to far from the climate in which he could survive. All the things that were discussed, helped put a new perspective and new ideas into my mind.
The past few short stories that we have read have all had a general theme of looking back on things in life. They were all looking back based on events that happened in the present. All of them had a similar consequence of trying the new thing that they were trying to do. Half of these ideas came from sharing out with the class and these are all ones that I really agreed with. I feel like these characters are easy to relate to for myself and everyone because we are always trying to fit in based off of societies pressures.
The short stories we have read in class have shown many similarities like the characters, and the struggles they endure. The characters put themselves in uncomfortable, as well as deadly, situations because of their internal struggles to fit in or do the right thing. For example, in the text "Through the Tunnel" the boy wanted to fit in and be like the big kids, and nearly died trying to swim through the tunnel. In "Plainswomen" she was put in the uncomfortable situation of cutting a man's finger off because she felt obligated to do the right thing. In "Scarlet Ibis" the disabled boy was pushed to the point of death because his brother wanted to have a "normal" sibling.
The short stories we have been reading all kinda have to do with death. They also all show the struggles they go through and what they have to do help and/fix those struggles.
Within these three stories we have been reading, the characters use emotions to drive their decisions and regret them later. Most of the protagonists come across a realization that helps them grow in the future. These stories really make you think about each sentence, and leave you wondering why each part is important to the overall tale. The protagonists in these short stories act on emotions at first, and then realize something about themselves later on using logic. For example, In "Plainswoman", Nora was anxious about leaving her home in New England, which made her actions driven by her nerves. However, later on she realized that she needed to overcome her anxieties, which helped her grow as a person and adjust to the situation she was given.
The short stories we read in class had a lot in common with the challenges the characters faced. In the two passages "Plainswomen" and "Scarlet Ibis" the main characters Doodle and Nora were both out of place and were trying to fit into where they lived by doing things that other people did like run or take care of the workers when they have a infection. I also noticed the in the passages "Scarlet Ibis" and "Through the Tunnel" Doodle and Jerry both wanted to do something other people could, but they had to work very hard for; like how Jerry really wanted to go through the rock tunnel but needed to be able to hold his breath, and Doodle wanted to run like everyone but his body was too weak. Now, in all three of the passages "Through the Tunnel" "Plainswomen" and "Scarlet Ibis" Everyone is facing the challenge of facing death or near death; like how Nora needed to take matters into her hands before she and her workers plus her baby would die,and Jerry needed to be able to hold his breath and swim ast in order to make it out of the tunnel. Doodle unfortunately faced death when trying to run in order to keep up with his brother in the rain, but fell very hard.
All of the short stories we have read in class have lots of similar aspects to them. In "The Scarlet Ibis" a boy named Doodle has some sort of medical condition, and his brother ends up running him to death at the end of the story. In "Plainswoman" Nora was having problems with her husband, and wanted to leave the plains and go to the city. And in "Through The Tunnel" the boy couldn't ever do what he wanted to do, so he was really upset a lot. In all of these stories, the characters face tough challenges in their life, and that's how the stories are similar.
The short stories that we have read in class seem to have tons of similarities. To start off with the mood during the main chunk of the story is gloomy. In all of these stories the main character’s have been in uncomfortable new situations. Or they have been the odd ones out in society. All of the consequences in the short stories are death. In “This was in The plains women” the man was going to die if Nora hadn’t cut off his finger, in “The Scarlet Ibis” death was shadowing Doodle through his whole life, and in “Through Through Tunnel” the boy almost dies trying to go through the tunnel. In all of the stories the character’s have gotten into their struggles because of the significant other. For example “This was in The plains women” Nora goes out to the West with her husband, in “The Scarlet Ibis” Doodle got into the storm while playing with his brother at the swamp, and in “The Bass, The River, and Sheila Mant” the boy gets into his conflict on his way to a “date” with Sheila. The short stories that we have read in class, seem tremendously alike.
All of the stories that we have read you can see that the characters have some similarities. All the characters have been put in some uncomfortable situation and forced to be who they are. In "Through The Tunnel" Jerry wanted to be like everyone else at the beach and he wanted to swim through the tunnel he almost died due to drowning. He had to face that he was still a young boy and he didn’t have to be like everyone else, but on the other hand in the "Plain Women" Nora was from the city and didn’t understand the situations in the plains. She had to chop of Peny’s figure before it got infected and had to adapt to the life in the west. Finally in "Scarlet Ibis" Doodle always stood out because he was different and his brother never understood that and he had to learn that it’s fine to be different before something bad happened. Doodle died and his brother finally learned that he shoved loved his brother more than bullying him. So all the characters in the three stories have some similarities.
The short stories we’ve read all have connections through characters and themes. In all of the stories, a character has to struggle with something. In “Through the Tunnel”, Jerry struggles to swim through the tunnel. In “Plainswoman”, Nora struggles with adjusting to the way of life on the plains. In “The Scarlet Ibis”, Doodle struggles with being physically abled. All of the characters are the “odd one out” in the story. They want to fit in, but they are put in situations where it is hard to adjust. In all of the stories, each of the characters face their challenges differently, but their struggles have similarities.
The short stories “Through the Tunnel”, “Plainswoman” and “Scarlet Ibis” are set upon a character who faces and undergoes struggles, especially due to the central idea of fitting in and being like everyone else. These main characters all face a similar challenge of needing to change how they are based on something they have seen or heard including the following: Jerry in “Through the Tunnel” needing to sacrifice his health to be like the boys at the beach and swim through the rocks, Nora struggling to adjust to her new life in the country in “Plainswoman”, and “Scarlet Ibis”’s Doodle trying to be a normal kid and learn how to run by the push of his brother. These characters were driven to do something based on a fear or worry they had about their capability, and the setting of the story has a strong impact on how they go about their daily lives. After a particularly hard part in the stories, like when Doodle dies, Jerry almost dies, and Nora remembers the rough parts of the past, the characters are forced to accept what they have done and realize what they should have done. Therefore, all three characters have regret and remorse over their losses, showing that they had to deal with the consequences. Because of this, all three short stories show how the protagonists grow as individuals at the end, and all portray this with a similar, somber mood.
In the short story we have been reading latly have been very similar but in different ways.For example,in the short story we see that the main charcters try to act/be someone that thery really arent and they just try to act different. Also in the short story alot of the people in the story so of the charaters died and some of the main character are close to dying. Once some dieds in the short story so of the main charaters will live with that regret. Im the short story "Scarlet Ibis" Doodle passes away and his older brothe lives with a regret that he was never nice to him and wishes was nice to doodle.In the short story "Throught the tunnel" the main charcter jerry all most died by drowing.Fanilly in the story "the lady and the tiger" the princess was goig to let jelousy kill her lover.In all the short stories we have read we all have notice that all of the main charcters reget something or they wish that nerver happend because it all ends up someone they loved passes away
All the short stories we read in class have a similar theme, which is that all the main characters feel out of place in someway. In "The Scarlet Ibis, Doodle feels out of place because no one else is like him and he can't do the things other people can. Also his brother makes fun of him which leads to him feels even more differnt. In the story the "Plainswomen" Nora feels out of place in where else is living because she is used to the New England life, not the plains life. In the story "Through The Tunnel" the boy is the only one at the big rocks that is his age and race which makes him feel out of places, and the fact that the boy couldn't do the things the older kids were doing.
throughout each of the storyś we read in class the characters and setting were different but each had something in common. In the Scarlet ibis, the Brother was pushing doddle to hard and is related to the plains woman because she felt different and like the odd one out, As well as in through the tunnel the boy wanted to prove himself. he wanted to fit in. each of the characters were each put into a position where they had to make a choice, a Realization. Growing up and taking on a challenge that they all face differently. throughout our discussion, I noticed a pattern of people talking about how each character has a different struggle, but they're not all struggles. each of the situations may have had a bad part, but they were not all struggle. they each make a choice and through a point of view that was the way we saw it, like from through the tunnel the boys challenge was more of an accomplishment, in the scarlet ibis doodle was choosing to be optimistic even though the ending was sad he still made a choice to be with his brother, and in the plains woman she had sad memories but her overall challenge was accomplished.
From reading several short stories in class, I noticed some patterns regarding the characters and the parts of the story. In all three texts, the main characters struggled with a challenge or task. The Plainswoman rushed Nora past memories to cut off Pleny’s gangrene finger, Through the Tunnel encouraged Jerry to swim through the underwater tunnel, and The Scarlet Ibis desired the Narrator to make his physically challenged brother, become more normal. However, these characters were able to realise something through their tasks. Nora came to terms with the fact that living on the plains was wildly different than living in a city, and Jerry realised that he nearly died trying to follow in the wake of others. The Narrator started to appreciate Doodle, only after he died. Aside from The Scarlet Ibis, the texts were fairly close ended. In The Plainswoman Nora starts to enjoy the idea of having her child born in the plains, and the adventure clearly wraps up at the end of Through the Tunnel. In The Scarlet Ibis we are left with the Narrator sheltering his brother’s dead body from the rain. We know nothing of how the rest of the family reacted nor how the Narrator felt after remembering those events.
After reading the short stories, and listening to my peers in the class discussion. I was able to conclude that all the characters in the story's all deal with problems. For example, Doodle has to fight with the fact that he can't do everything his brother can. One theme in all the stories is; your actions have consequences. This relates to all the passages because, in the Scarlet Ibis, the protagonist pushes Doodle to his limits even so that he ends up dying in the end. Also, In the passage Through the Tunnel, the protagonist's struggle between catching the biggest fish or get a girl that is not interested in him. Both passages, Through the Tunnel, and Scarlet Ibis, end in sort of a negative way unlike The Plains Woman does. The Plains Woman ends positively. Overall, all the passages relate to each other in a particular way.
After the short stories all of the main characters have something in common. The main characters have to face their fear. In "Through the Tunnels" Jerry has to face himself when he is practicing his breathing and going through the tunnel. This is simpler to the "Scarlet Ibis" because Doodle was born with a heart defect and has to live knowing that he can not do much, but he still pushes himself and in the end he pushed himself to heard which was everyones fear. Though all four of the short stories, they show a character that wants to fit in. Even though their way of life is different from everyone else. In "The Planes women" Nora is faced with trying to understand how life works in the west. She is used to life in New England and must quickly adjust so that she could thrive in this new environment. In the end all of the characters face something that challenges them in the way the live, and they tent to pull through coming out stronger than they were. They each learned a valuable lesson about life.
The three short stories, "Plainswoman," "Through the Tunnel," and "The Scarlet Ibis," all have character patterns. All three protagonists were pushed beyond their limits, and it either led to good or bad things. Doodle, from "The Scarlet Ibis," was pushed out of his comfort zone by his brother, and it led to his death. Nora from "Plainswoman" was pushed out of her comfort zone when she moved out of New England with her husband into the plains, but it led to her being happy when she accepted her situation. Jerry from "Through the Tunnel" learned to control his breathing to swim through a tunnel in a rock, and while he did accomplish his goal, he experienced heavy nosebleeds and almost drowning. All the characters could relate to each other's injuries and trauma. Nora had to cut off a man's finger, Doodle died and his brother had to deal with his death, and Jerry suffered injuries and near death. The protagonists faced almost similar changes differently.
The short stories that we’ve read are showing a lot of similarities, the characters are trying to fit in, challenge themselves, push their limits, and force themselves to do something more than they can. All of those stories are about being yourself but then they all want to fit into the group of people that are around them, for a lot of them the consequences are death. In "Plainswoman" Nora had problems with her husband, and wanted to leave the plains and go to the city. In ‘The Scarlet Ibis’ Doodle had some kind of problems with condition, his brother ends up running him to death. In ‘Through The Tunnel’ the boy was pushing his limits and he was trying to hold his breath under the water for such a long time and because of that he had a lot of nosebleeds. In all of those stories characters are challenging with some kind of problems and that’s how the stories are similar.
Amelia O
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